Hello, and welcome to Wednesday, July 5. Happy day after America's Day. Happy four days after Canada's Day. It is, it's currently 26 degrees here where I am. We'll get a weather report from Chris in a moment, but, this isn't a weather podcast either.
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Speaker 1:Because it's worth more in Canada. Because I don't know, prime ministers and presidents or something. But, this is a special episode. This is actually the Lost and Lemon Reunion episode we're doing because we realized, well, we knew, but it's been over a year, like fourteen, fifteen months since we last recorded Lost and Lemon. Kyle and I officially had retired it on the website.
Speaker 1:The episodes are aren't even showing up right now, I don't think, if you look at it. But so my brother-in-law and former podcast cohost and friend, I guess. Are we friends
Speaker 2:still? Say so. Is
Speaker 1:here. Welcome to the show, Chris.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Chris. It's good to be on the show with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So for the anybody who's not aware, Lost and Lemon was our attempt over I think it was, like, over three or four years almost.
Speaker 2:Oh,
Speaker 1:yeah. Because we have we have gaps where we take creative creative, what? Creative breaks,
Speaker 2:I guess. Creative license?
Speaker 1:Yeah. To retool and reenergize for the intensity that the podcast was.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And It was intense.
Speaker 1:We we started with the yeah. Idea of like Strategizing and monetizing and stuff. Mhmm. And, news lettering. So we started with the idea of like, you run your business in Australia at the time.
Speaker 1:I run my business here in Canada. Let's compare notes. I think was kind of
Speaker 2:Yeah. The idea. It was like when we started our businesses.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Respectively. Respectively. So that's why it's Lost, which is Lost wax and Lemon, which is Lemon Productions.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That really pulls it all together.
Speaker 1:There you go. Sums it up. And, for the video viewers, you can see that Chris has a beautiful, flower post painting behind him
Speaker 2:Yes. Adorning his head. Myself.
Speaker 1:He did not.
Speaker 2:Someone painted it themselves.
Speaker 1:So, I don't know where to begin. The, since last we talked on the podcast, we've talked in we do actually talk as family more often than once every fourteen months, fifteen months. But, you're still a YouTube superstar, I I take it?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I guess. Yeah. A little bit less than a than I would like to be.
Speaker 1:As in you're not you did you're not as popular as you wish you were? Or
Speaker 2:Just YouTube changed a whole bunch of, like, their algorithms and stuff
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:And made it harder for creators to not get super stressed out, basically.
Speaker 1:So especially folks who are, like, trying to sell stuff. Is it, like, geared have you figured out it's kinda, like, geared for one style of show that yours isn't or something? Or
Speaker 2:Well, it's basically so that the more stuff you put out there, the better off you are. So if I could post every day and put up a video, I'd do really well. So, like, bloggers, things that don't take a lot of, like
Speaker 1:Production.
Speaker 2:Editing and stuff and production time. Because it used to be that if you did a video, say you did a five minute video and people watched all five minutes of it, then you got like YouTube was like, hey. People are engaged with your content. That's super good. Now you can put out a thirty minute video.
Speaker 2:And if people watch only five minutes of it, it's the same as if you they watched the five minutes of your other video. It's just like based on just the amount of time people watch of your videos.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So so, yeah, I don't it so then I like, it was just like a certain day. It was like, I don't know, February 3 or something. I don't remember. Actually, was like the day after the election in The US I think or the day after Trump came into power, which I'm sure has nothing to do with it. But it was like the next day all of a sudden my views went way down and my sales slowed down and it just never came back.
Speaker 2:And yeah, just weird.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. And like that's the thing for the average, if you've ever just messed around like I do, messed around on YouTube, I don't have like the stats of the viewers to even see any sort of trends like that in terms of viewership. But I know once you're at a certain level of in the many thousands of views per video, then you can very quickly start to see big things when or little changes that make big differences on videos over time and
Speaker 2:Yeah. And and I think it's like I I just think it's a bad like I think obviously that's the best for YouTube. They must keep people on YouTube the longest by doing it that way. But the problem is it's, like, forcing people to just, like, just pour content out, which means you stop producing your best work and you also have this pressure that you have to, you know, post minimally every week you should and and you just start to like crash and burn.
Speaker 1:Or it favors the like bigger production houses, right, who have like that's what's funny. I remember seeing I think it was on YouTube. I think it was Patreon featuring like indie creators. Right? And this the photos of I think it was when they did their Patreon relaunch of redesign launch or whatever.
Speaker 1:But like the photos of the people who are the indie creators is like this team of people like living in a studio with like 16 of them and that's now the indie creator. Right? Like you you and I are like not even indie, we're somehow below that even. Yeah. Where you have like a video crew that follows you around and so you can just post like behind the scenes video and it's like actually produced by four people who like an audio guy and a video guy and girl and editor and and the person the the personality like you or whatever would never actually even touch the video at all other than just being in it randomly.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's like it's just kinda like like everything else on the Internet. Feels like the bar starts out really low for entry. Yeah. And it's like, oh, great. We can all do this.
Speaker 1:So we all quit our jobs, jump into this thing. But as the bar gets higher or the water rises or whatever, your boat doesn't necessarily keep up and eventually you're drowning and then you go back Yeah. To working for the man or whatever.
Speaker 2:Unless you unless you are one of the people who hires a production team and wants to just deal with all that extra stress too. Yeah. Like Which is not what my goal in life is, is to create more stress for myself.
Speaker 1:True. Exactly.
Speaker 2:But it it in a lot of ways, it's kind of it has been good in that it's forced me to sort of reevaluate everything and try and optimize some of the things that I just let like my website, I hadn't changed in years. It said I was making jewelry still. Right. So so like things like that. It's obviously forced me to to sort of try and eke out the most of everything that I have.
Speaker 2:I don't know where I was going with that but
Speaker 1:And then you like naturally you jumped on the Twitter bandwagon right and started tweeting.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you've seen all my tweet. I did a livestream.
Speaker 1:I saw that on like a YouTube livestream, or whatever. Yeah. How'd that work out?
Speaker 2:Crazy. Freaky. I was totally freaked out. The whole like first, I don't know, twenty minutes, I'm just like, I forgot my ruler and then I posted it, right? So I did the livestream and then I posted it on YouTube.
Speaker 2:And then probably two hours later, I realized that I'd actually been recording for about fifteen minutes before I actually started because I'd been testing it out and I had it as like I had it listed as unlisted. Yeah. And then when I went live, put it as public and I thought that meant that that would then be public but so then it so it has like just like the first twenty minutes is like nothing there and then like you'll see me in a pencil like a pencil goes down and like oh embarrassing.
Speaker 1:Nice. But that's like Yeah. I mean it's tough when you have a bigger audience obviously I guess to like sort of learn on the fly or whatever make some mistakes. It feels like maybe you're like you should know some of that stuff already but that's what we're we all do with this kind of stuff I know. But so was there like any how many folks tuned in live to the One Year Show?
Speaker 1:I think there were
Speaker 2:about 30 maybe. 20 to 30, which was actually really good because once once I actually sort of got going and once there were some people interacting with me, I got a bit more relaxed because then there was something to talk about sort of. Yeah. And so, yeah, so it was kind of enjoyable. I don't know that though that I want I know YouTube would like me to, you know, post a whole bunch of live streams on my my feed.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I feel like it kind of dilutes, like, the actual stuff that I wanna put out there. I noticed I had a big drop in subscribers as soon as I posted my livestream Shoot. Which was awesome. So I don't know if that's what people really wanna see. I know there's some people that really wanna see it.
Speaker 2:Right. But I'm thinking of maybe like say with Patreon if I just had something where they I could would do a livestream and my patrons would be able to see it or something. I don't know. I haven't figured it out.
Speaker 1:Patreon actually partnered with or something there's a service called Crowdcast that is a livestreaming platform basically that allows you to do that kind of stuff. And and you can actually like because we tested it a little bit before and then now it's like sort of locked up and they're revamping it or something. But basically you can use Crowdcast to stream only to Patreon supporters at a certain level, whatever level you decide. Right. Minimal or whatever.
Speaker 1:But and so that way then you know like, whereas YouTube, you'd have to, like, have them all be as part of a group or something. I don't know. You'd have to have add them somehow, or I guess you could do an unlisted video. Or have
Speaker 2:an unlisted video.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That you a secret URL or something,
Speaker 2:but Buy them all.
Speaker 1:Which could be just shared or whatever where this is like they log in with their Patreon account and are able to see it that way or whatever. So it could be kinda interesting that way because then it's you could have like a once a month build a steampunk airship or whatever it was. Yeah. With your the people who are actually giving you money and then you're like actually doing them a direct service, guess or whatever but
Speaker 2:And then you know those are the people that aren't gonna just like laugh at you and mock you. Exactly. Because they actually do care about, they're happy to sit through some awkwardness in order to see what you have for content or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And totally like I mean, I know you've seen some of these guys and girls too like doing the livestream thing. Like, it's one it's something that you get more comfortable with over time for sure because and it it always helps with more people. Like, anytime we do the YouTube stream, we we often stream that one and record it live. But if there's like if I don't recognize the one person in the chat room or whatever, like, we'll get maybe six to 10 people in the chat room and then listening live.
Speaker 1:And then so it's it's much easier with a bigger group because both from like it kind of makes that one if there is an idiot, they look like more of an idiot because there's other people watching I guess too or like are in sort of crowd mentality, I guess herd mentality. But yeah. And you get like, especially if it's a regular thing, get regulars who show up all the time too and you recognize them that becomes a bit more of a relationship and so it's a bit more fun. It's like you hang out with Fabiano is the one guy in the YouTube chat room who's like from Brazil or whatever who shows up all the time. It's just kinda like get to chat with Fabiano.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Fabiano was doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So
Speaker 2:I I find I've watched like, when live streaming first came out, there were a few people that I would watch, usually people talking about YouTube stuff or whatever. But I've started to not watch them anymore because I'm just like, well, they're gonna talk for an hour and they're gonna say, like, one or two things that I care about, but I don't really wanna watch for a whole hour to find out what that is.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So I've kinda stopped. Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I find that it's like a personality driven thing. Like, it's sort of like having the radio in the background or whatever. I'll if there is a there's a few podcasters and stuff that I'll tune into live sometimes. And they do they just do the live version of like it's their podcast that they would release later in in a slightly more edited version. And I'll just tune in live to have it as something on in the background while I'm doing other work.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, I don't I don't I would rarely ever sit like with intentionality like, okay, Chris is doing his thing now. I better tune in live or whatever. But no, that's what like the YouTube some of the YouTube folks who listen, they totally do that. Like it's a regular thing and if we forget to like say, oh, we're not recording this week or whatever, they still will show up and be like, oh, where were you guys? You know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:And so Yeah. It is kinda cool when you get a bit of that, momentum or whatever from from listeners or viewers, I guess, that case. That's
Speaker 2:Yeah. That is good. What time do you do your YouTube?
Speaker 1:That one is usually either like a it'd be tonight, like Wednesday nights around 08:30 my time or Thursday afternoons because we have some folks in like England who wanna be on the show and so it'd be like really late at night or early in the morning, guess, for them. So but yeah, they'll tune in like like Fabiano, I know is is Brazil somewhere and he, it's like 12:30, 01:00 at night or whatever for him, and he still tunes in each time. So
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And that's what other ones How are do
Speaker 2:things Sorry. Go ahead. I was
Speaker 1:just gonna say that's what other shows I've seen. Like, it kinda you can see that there's regulars obviously who tune in all the time. And so it's probably just that consistency on the schedule. Like, you did it every first Monday of the month or whatever at 2PM, people would make the time to be there or whatever. But if it's like randomly just gonna try it now, they're like Mesa or can't stick around because they're going to work or whatever.
Speaker 2:So There's sort of a lack of a draw if someone is available and gets your notification and brings on the computer. Yeah. Yeah. So how is the podcast world going since the last year?
Speaker 1:Well, we've actually just this month, our mutual brother-in-law and sister-in-law, I guess that's how they would be, they did they've done a couple podcasts. I don't know if you've Mhmm. Audio podcasts. I I
Speaker 2:didn't view. I listened to lots of the Legion one.
Speaker 1:Clockworks. Yeah. It's called Clockworks. Yeah. It's about Legion.
Speaker 1:I always
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. You know
Speaker 1:you know how that works.
Speaker 2:Which you can find on, Good Stuff.
Speaker 1:Goodstuff.fm/clockworks. It'll be a link will be in the show notes actually as well. And then they just put out a new one called way too seriously, which actually I mentioned in the previous episode of this show, but you weren't here to to know that. So that's okay. Wasn't fair.
Speaker 1:And then actually, Kyle Roderick and I, the guy I do good stuff with, we put out a podcast called high contrast where we're kinda just chatting about stuff. Started with the idea of it being like he's somewhere down in The States and I'm up here in Canada and maybe we're different kind of people that had to use different, like a tech stuff or life stuff, ways we do things, but we're kind of like both too polite to really disagree too much with on things, so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2:So you have different like, have different you are very different people, but but you're you don't argue about that? So you're gonna argue in the show? Like, that what it's
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. We're gonna take on, personas. It's kinda like wrestling. It's like wrestling,
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:In podcast form. No. We like
Speaker 2:Lost you?
Speaker 1:The idea would be like we pick one topic. So like the last one was just video games and we talk about how we grew up playing video games, what we're playing now, just kinda like video games or, the way we use notifications on our phones or computers and how we let apps and services notify us or not and those kinds of things. So Okay. Just kinda figuring out hopefully, it's interesting to other people, but it's also just an excuse for us to chat about good stuff related things and other stuff going on in life too. So he has a lot of fake cats, so we catch up on that.
Speaker 2:His fake cats.
Speaker 1:Apparently, that's what I've learned through this. So I didn't know that about him.
Speaker 2:Real Physical one fake cats or
Speaker 1:No. I think it's all just like imaginary friend cats. That's as best it's it's an ongoing discussion, so I'll let you know. Tune into that podcast to find out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I will. Maybe it's I'm totally watching it. Kyle and
Speaker 1:I are mentally breaking down.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's it's still, one of those fun things, especially adding some new new, shows, new people along with that. Like, it just kinda breathes a bit more fresh energy and life into it and renews it. Yeah. It's a fun thing to do for the rest of us.
Speaker 2:Because because I imagine actually doing this, if you do the same podcast for a long long time, it would maybe get a little bit boring.
Speaker 1:Maybe. I mean, this is 200 and some episodes of this one, so I don't know. I I I just run into it's not like I'm bored to do it. I just get run out of ideas sometimes. So, like, the last one I actually just asked on Twitter is like, anybody wanna know anything?
Speaker 1:And so three three different people asked or responded. So that's what's just like the livestream thing. It's just fun to have if the audience is big enough that you can do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Which some I mean, a really popular podcast or whatever would get hundreds of responses and they'd have to like figure out which ones they do. I was just hoping I got one. I got You got one? I got three questions.
Speaker 2:So Awesome. Good.
Speaker 1:But yeah. So the the with the YouTube thing changing and obviously that's like directly affects income Yep. For you, and then the is there like does it make you have you ever in the past you said like since the election, guess, but like as you're seeing numbers go down and then up and down and up or whatever and sound like it's more down than up for a while, is it like is there ever like a hit the eject button, let's go work at Starbucks kind of moment for you? Or is it like this is a I It was never either that bad or your mind is just like that's not even an option?
Speaker 2:Sometimes, yeah. I would I was probably not quite to the like hit the eject button yet because it hasn't been so bad that we're not eating food or anything. In fact, yeah, it's not that bad. It just basically, it's like gone straight level since whenever, last year. Right.
Speaker 2:Even though like because in my mind, like, I totally had it like worked out in my mind. I'm like, hey, if I make one video and I make $50 a month from that, then if I make two videos, I'll make a $100 a month. If I make three, I'll make, you know. Yeah. It's like just simple math, right?
Speaker 2:So and that worked for a while but then all of a sudden it was like because like I have way more content now than I did last year at this time but it's still the same sales as last year. So then it just makes me realize that I can never just assume that it won't tomorrow just be gone. Know? Like some little thing gets tweaked. They canceled my YouTube account or something and then boom.
Speaker 2:It's like nothing. Right? Yeah. So and the amount, because I'm like, I just get stressed because I start thinking about all the things that I gotta do. Like okay now, okay, so I gotta make a video a week.
Speaker 2:So what am I gonna do a video about? I could do this and I start running over. Start like making a video over here then I'm like, or actually maybe I should be working on this pattern. So then on the next day I'll start working on the pattern and then I'm just like running around, freaking out, which makes me super fun to be around as well.
Speaker 1:I'm sure.
Speaker 2:I've calmed down a little bit over the last few months when I've just realized there's not a lot I can do about it.
Speaker 1:You know, you should do. I saw a lot of YouTubers like, it was probably right around like maybe months ago or whatever, but like Yeah. All of them were posting YouTube freak out videos because they were like, you know, rants and yelling and swearing or whatever at YouTube for like screwing up their lives basically. So that seemed to be a really popular thing for a while. Just embrace
Speaker 2:they took off, being able to put ads
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:On your videos if you had less than a certain number of subscribers or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And they were doing more like they wouldn't just plaster ads on everything. You had to have, like, if there was any sort of like, yeah, less than subpar stuff or something, they would pull the ads or whatever too and
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Just embrace the chaos and the madness and
Speaker 2:just like
Speaker 1:Now I'm gonna build a steampunk ventilator system. I cannot breathe anymore. That's what's so crazy with like and I know we've talked about before is like just the we put our collective I don't have all my eggs in the Internet basket as it were, but like the there's so much hope and possibility with it on the one hand, but then it can just like disappear overnight. Yeah. And even like the random like I did, on my Lemon video, Lemon channel, like just for fun only because I really wanted to create the video.
Speaker 1:I wasn't like actually thinking it was gonna do anything. I made a Snapchat, did a little update a while ago and just location sharing and stuff. And so I just put that on there and then that video, like every other video has like 60 views over like the course of six months. And then that one is like 1,100 views, right over the course of a weekend. And and all of a sudden, just like you're just like, oh, that's what I need to do.
Speaker 1:Clearly, that's the that's the path forward right there. I'll just make somehow make videos about Snapchat over and over every day.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But but then the next video like, which was like part two of that video basically. So like, if you liked that video and you watched it, probably you'd wanna watch this next one. That one has 98 views.
Speaker 2:Was like like who knows why or how
Speaker 1:Yeah. Happens. Right? Lucky timing for that first one somehow. And then the next one was like, no no, you're back over here again.
Speaker 1:Don't don't you're not
Speaker 2:Don't get too excited. Yeah. Yeah. Think honestly, think right now for to to start a YouTube channel now is probably really hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I would assume so.
Speaker 2:Because I think I'm so lucky I started mine even when I did which, you know, whatever that was in 2013, so three or something years ago. I think there's way more competition now even than there was then.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, like you said, even the I said earlier the there's just more bigger production houses or whatever on there that can just pump out content. Yeah. Yeah. That's what one channel I got.
Speaker 1:Know, like you just get sucked into like the YouTube algorithm or whatever and it starts showing you stuff and it was like top 10 oh, because I was listening to Morning Show, a podcast on good stuff. And they started talking about this roller coaster. Was like, oh, I wonder what it some new ride at a theme park or whatever. And I was like, I wonder what it looks like. I can probably watch a video of it somewhere.
Speaker 1:And so I looked on YouTube and it was like the 10 craziest roller coasters in the world or whatever. So I started watching that one. It's like a thirteen minute video and I'm like watching this. I'm like, what the heck? I don't even care about Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was like a I would have happily seen just a picture of the thing, but here I am like ten minutes into this video watching roller coasters around the world.
Speaker 2:See, because YouTube knows they know what you're gonna watch next. Yeah. See, that's the other change YouTube made that really made people angry is it used to be that guaranteed, you know, when you had your video up there, you know, on the sidebar, it says like what to watch next. The the top listing would be another one of your videos. Right?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So it was easy for people to keep following your own videos. Whereas now, they they don't do that anymore. They just put whatever they want there.
Speaker 1:Oh,
Speaker 2:yeah. And it's almost never your own video.
Speaker 1:Right. Because obviously, I'm sure the algorithm says, like, the chances of someone wanting to watch another video by a person is relatively low, but the topic or whatever they want is more important. And so then, yeah, let's get them over onto more steampunk videos by some other doofus or whatever.
Speaker 2:And you lose all your stuff.
Speaker 1:So unless you have, like, a really catchy whatever that final video clip or whatever thing of, like, sucking them into some other video.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Or the end screen, like, because now they have the end screen things, right? So you could have another video on your end screen
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:To get them to watch another video. Yeah. Yeah. So I've been like, when you say about, you know, would you wanna quit and do something else? Like, don't even know what I would do because we're like, hey, who wants to make something out of foam?
Speaker 2:Or, you know, that's gonna go real well in small Prairies town here. But I have been thinking like I should be, you know, honing my video skills in case, you know, maybe I have to be a wedding video guy or, you know, something that someone would hire me for. Yeah. So I have been thinking a bit about that lately.
Speaker 1:Have I got a video channel for you then? Thrifty video.
Speaker 2:Thrifty video. That is a good channel.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think we still get occasional video or views on that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's another bit of our history.
Speaker 1:A whole another yeah. Ball of wax. Alright. Anything else? What's else?
Speaker 1:What else is going on?
Speaker 2:Your eyes look nice and blue. Thanks. It's because of this this camera. They're mesmerizing.
Speaker 1:It captures my eyes. Yeah. It's probably because my contact I was at a we went swimming yesterday in in a chlorine pool and had my contacts in and so sure my eyes are slightly bloodshot, which this camera probably confuses for make it bluer. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Tis the season for swimming pools and outdoors. It is. Which is why I'm working in the basement.
Speaker 2:I'm in a room that's probably 35 degrees.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're upstairs. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Thought the door shut so that there's no noise coming in and the sun comes in the window. Although it's actually since I got this newer computer, it's not quite as much of a heat making machine, which is nice.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Right. Talk about you so after how many 2,010 it was? So like seven year
Speaker 2:old computer? Mid twenty ten.
Speaker 1:You've decided to pull the trigger.
Speaker 2:I pulled the trigger because I spent like one day looking at a beach ball for most of the day. But all I wanted to do was make a time lapse video. So it's just like to just import a whole bunch of still clips and just make it into a time lapse. I was just sitting there watching beach balls and I was like, I got to get a new computer. So then I think that day or the next day, I sent my wife off to go buy me a computer.
Speaker 2:As you did. Was done.
Speaker 1:Yep. Pick up a stick of butter, some bread,
Speaker 2:and because
Speaker 1:an iMac computer.
Speaker 2:An iMac. Because that's the other thing, Chris, that I've been doing is, right? Because I'm like, okay. So I've gotta make way more videos to appease the YouTube gods. So I need to make things more efficient, right?
Speaker 2:So that I can make videos faster. So I've got a, you know, got a camera that has a mic input so I don't have to sync audio. So then this was the next step was get a computer that doesn't make me sit around a lot. And, which is funny because it's like, okay, so I'm making less money. So I'm gonna spend a bunch more money.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. You gotta spend money to make money is what everybody says.
Speaker 2:That's the
Speaker 1:That's the key. That's why it hasn't gone so well for you for the last seven years. Haven't been
Speaker 2:spending money. Spent enough. Boom. Now you watch me rocket to Yeah. Whatever that's called.
Speaker 2:I just wanna rocket to relaxation. That's my goal. My overriding goal is to have relaxing time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's like you're the counter counterpreneur. The the opposite of all the like gurus online or teaching you how to get 6 figures and work yourself to death and yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's what I don't wanna do. Yeah. I'll take the six figures but not the death part.
Speaker 1:Six figures without the stress.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what they say that you can do. They are like, I go surfing every afternoon.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Look at me surfing and I'm super rich. Just buy my thing and then you'll be super rich and you'll go surfing. But they don't know. I live in Manitoba.
Speaker 2:I'm not going surfing.
Speaker 1:Can't go surfing on the Red River? No. Yes. Wake surfing maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Could go swimming or drifting. Just go in the river and drift down the river.
Speaker 1:That's what actually the the one thing I've learned that more more people do than I realize. So snapchats going circling back to the snapchats location update. They basically now if your if your snaps are public, they're on and you have locations enabled, locations sharing or whatever, then anybody can sort of view like I can go look at the river area let's say of our city and see if anybody shared any snaps from there. Right? Public snaps.
Speaker 1:So it doesn't show me their account name. It doesn't show me anything on the on the I don't know whose it is. Okay. I can see that like six dudes and whatever got this big inflatable thing and floated down the river from up further up the river and then floated down into Saskatoon or whatever because I can follow them on Snapchat or whatever. Right.
Speaker 1:So it kinda gives you this interesting which so the scary part is a lot of those folks don't realize that actually it's going on in the map now whereas like before a month ago, it wasn't going on any sort of public map. They might have been public if I found their account and, like, typed in, you know, bro dudes, river dudes, or whatever their account name is, then I could watch the videos. But I wouldn't have been able to go to, this spot on the map and see that they're probably in this general area and sharing this video. Right?
Speaker 2:Right. Do you have to do you have to be one of their follower people to see that? Like like, if I just went to the river, like, just everyone who would put Snapchat things up by the river.
Speaker 1:Or on well, anywhere you are. Yeah. Long as you're as long as it's a public public story and, you have location sharing enabled, which most people do by default just because it's it's the default prompts like, well, of course, I'll just give give you everything, give you access to everything.
Speaker 2:Of course. Right.
Speaker 1:And, and so then, you know, it's kind of fun. You can see the fun of it because you're like, oh, my friends are all at whatever, but then you can also be like, oh, my friends are all somewhere else and they didn't tell me. All floating down the river today. And I'm stuck stuck at home or whatever. But but, yeah, also like lots of people are like sharing a photo of their kid bouncing or a snap or video or whatever of their kid bouncing on their bed or whatever.
Speaker 1:And it's like inside their house and I don't think they knew that it would be like it doesn't I don't think it narrows down like right to the house but it's like you're probably in this block. Right?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And that's how specific you can get and so it's it's kind of freaky and, yeah, as long as you're aware of it, I guess, that's kind of why I did a little video just to like say, hey, this is a thing that happens. But yeah.
Speaker 2:There'd be a lot of people who wouldn't be aware of it. Like, I wouldn't be aware of it. Exactly. I'm gonna go turn vacation services off. Boom.
Speaker 1:For all those Snapchat snaps you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I did one once.
Speaker 1:Once. Yeah. Snapchat. Anyway, that's all. I forget why we're saying that all but
Speaker 2:because it's interesting.
Speaker 1:Interesting. Well, we're at the half hour point. This podcast is supposed to go ten minutes or so. So I guess I'll split it up into three episodes. That's how you maximize your YouTube.
Speaker 2:Good. See, you only have to do the work once.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Get three things out of
Speaker 1:it. So welcome to part three, part four now of this four part series, Lost and Lemon Reunion Show. I can't imagine dragging out a yeah. Conversation like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:What are, what are the YouTube channels that you do actually watch? Do you watch any other, like, for fun or for
Speaker 2:I I watch video creators.
Speaker 1:That's like the channel?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think that's the channel. It's like about video stuff. There's also a guy named Daryl, like d e r r a l something or other. That's another YouTube one.
Speaker 2:There's yeah. That's about it that I actually spent time watching. I'm subscribed to tons.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Me too. I always get sucked into like some celebrity was on Jimmy whatever Fallon last night and said this, can you believe that? And then like, I'll just watch. He's like, oh, it's just a two minute video.
Speaker 1:And then like, again, fifteen minutes go by. Yeah. YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Don't worry.
Speaker 1:It's the devil.
Speaker 2:Find is.
Speaker 1:Alright. Well, I think we've said everywhere people can find you if they wanna go lostwax oz.com is your website. Yeah. Patreon.com/lostwax.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Youtube/lostwax. Yeah. Oz. Where Where can people find you, Chris?
Speaker 1:They already know this is my thing.
Speaker 2:They're already on your podcast Yeah. Daily ish.
Speaker 1:There you go. Okay.
Speaker 2:They know you better than I know you.
Speaker 1:Well, you could too. You just have to listen.
Speaker 2:I have listened to
Speaker 1:Oh, maybe I have to do more YouTube versions of it. So if I did YouTube videos of it, it should be easy. Like I just do a ten minute little video. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Oh, it's easy to just do a video.
Speaker 1:Vlogging, video logging.
Speaker 2:I do one every day.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And yeah. And get rich.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Super rich.
Speaker 1:Alright.
Speaker 2:I'll make a video how to get super rich.
Speaker 1:Alright. Thanks folks for listening. Thanks for watching if the Patreon thing works out and, patreon.com/ichris. Patreon.com/lostwax. No Oz, just lostwax.
Speaker 1:And, we'll see you again next time.
Speaker 2:Bye. Yes. Yeah.