Chris Talks to Chris
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Chris Talks to Chris

Lost audio from Lost & Lemon makes it’s way onto the Daily(ish) stream. Chris and Chris catch up on life, business, and roller skating pirate hats.
Speaker 1:

Hello. Welcome to Daily(ish) for, Tuesday, May 31, the May 2016. The weather outside sixteen feels like fifteen, but this is not a weather podcast. This podcast is however brought to you by FeedPress. Visit feed.press/dailyish today to check out awesome podcast and blog RSS analytics and hosting for your podcast.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

And again, coupon code Daily(ish) during checkout at feed.press/ Daily(ish). You get 10% off your first year of service with them. Also by Patreon supporters like you, patreon.com/ichris, where you can check out how you can support me and my podcasting efforts a little more directly and, have a lot of fun doing it, I hope. We we sorry. We being Chris and I, my brother-in-law, we recorded a podcast, a conversation anyways that would normally go into the Lost and Lemon feed.

Speaker 1:

And, but I'm not sure we're we're discussing debating where and what we're gonna do with that show. And and so as a result, we're gonna just I'm just gonna include that conversation as part of the Daily ish feed. So I hope you'll bear with us as you get a bonus content or maybe a sampler, I guess you could look at it as of of what another show on the network looks like sounds like. We were tried recording it on YouTube Hangout streaming thing. Video is out of sync with the audio so it's kind of a mess, so can't we can't use it for that but the audio itself is is decent enough anyways and so I am going to include it here.

Speaker 1:

And so, I won't do this every episode, but it may become a reoccurring thing where when Chris and I have conversations we just include in Daily(ish) and Lost and Lemon just hasn't got the that many listeners to be honest, to the show. There's people who say they wanna listen to it, but in terms of actual downloads very minimal. And so it kind of is a bit frustrating and so I guess this is my way of testing if it's Chris's voice or my voice that people are turned off by. So all of sudden people stop listening to this as well, then I may know it's Chris, I guess, that's to blame. No.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. That's not right. Anyways, at any rate, Chris and I often have conversations that are a bit about a bit goofy, a bit about life and business stuff and things that we're trying in our respective businesses, but we're neither of us are the extreme marketing, sleazy expert folks and much prefer to stumble our way into success rather than planning it out as you'll hear in the conversation. So I'm gonna play you a little bit of the Lost and Lemon music as a way of introducing it, then the conversation, and, that'll be it for this episode, which you can find at goodstuff.fm/dailyish/170two. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 1:

Enjoy the show.

Speaker 2:

Lost on Lemon. The Lost Relenion.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, what's been what's new in in the world over there?

Speaker 2:

What isn't new?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. Nothing.

Speaker 2:

My glasses, they're not new.

Speaker 1:

I still need to remember like four years ago or one time when you came here from from Australia and you ordered some new glasses and Sue was like, you need to Chris, you should order some new glasses too. I I still haven't ordered new glasses. Oh man. So they're held together by tape.

Speaker 2:

Wearing your old glasses for the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I should. If as long as they stay together because Sue always like folds them up when she's cleaning up, you know, cleaning the bathroom whatever because I'll just they're on the counter and so I leave them always you know out like that obviously like laid out so they don't precarious. But then yeah, she folds them up and puts them away to get you know clean the shelf or whatever and so then I'm always getting frustrated because then they break more easily. The tape, you know, that I'm using to hold them together.

Speaker 2:

You you know, maybe I could I could probably are they metal?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I think so.

Speaker 2:

I could probably like solder them.

Speaker 1:

That would be awesome.

Speaker 2:

Soldered them so they can't even bend in.

Speaker 1:

That would be awesome. And then they would just have like a yeah. Permanently locked in. You just have to do like a fitting with me one day and then solder them. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's done. Because they're probably still totally, style wise still pretty good, hey?

Speaker 1:

Oh, they're a little rough around the edges. And they're like just like, you know, a lot like if you you clean them glasses regularly, they're fine the for most part. But just over time it just like because it's been, I don't know, eight, ten years or something maybe that those I've had those glasses and so like they just they're just dirty and it doesn't come come off. Yeah. Scratched and whatever and so yeah.

Speaker 1:

But I wear them for like twenty minutes before I fall asleep and basically to get from the bed to the shower or whatever in the morning you know and like.

Speaker 2:

Those are kind of the most important times of the day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Well the the one thought of like what happens if like, we're in the middle of like our house is on fire and I'm like go to grab my glasses and like they fall apart and I'm like can't see running around the house trying to find where our kids are or something and then like so maybe it's worth getting a pair of cheap glasses just for that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I should probably I should like recommend you and then I get $20 or something for that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. Do you have you have a preferred system that you use?

Speaker 2:

Place the order. Pretty much clearly contacts. I think they just changed their name to just clearly.

Speaker 1:

Clearly.

Speaker 2:

Clearly.

Speaker 1:

Alright.

Speaker 2:

Cheap glasses, that's for sure. Yeah. Alright. They're on the you have to buy them over the internet. So you can't see them till you get them.

Speaker 2:

But they're but you can then just send them back if you don't like them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Super good. Yeah. These are from Clearly.

Speaker 1:

They look good.

Speaker 2:

Thanks. I like them.

Speaker 1:

So I'm trying to figure out what the the the streaming health thing is, if there's anything I can do about

Speaker 2:

it but Yeah.

Speaker 1:

While we're live. But, I don't know if I can.

Speaker 2:

Are you recording this as a podcast as well?

Speaker 1:

I'm recording yeah. So like there's a video, I think it's recording like the video of what we're doing locally here as well as streaming it to YouTube. So there is a lot of stuff going on plus Skype call coming in and out for me and you. So, but I'm pretty sure it's probably just bandwidth like where coming down is a big pipe and going up is a smaller pipe and that's what's causing the I guess I would have a separate streaming computer or something if I really wanted to get fancy. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So how is, internet superstardom treating you these days? YouTube superstardom?

Speaker 2:

Pretty good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I haven't gotten a lot of work done in the last, you know, however many months it seems. Yeah. Life is a bit crazy right now. I'm making a pirate I made pirate hats. So that's super fun except for for my video, I want to have a whole pirate outfit.

Speaker 2:

So therefore, I have to make the whole pirate outfit. So that's taking a bit of time. Then when I was deciding because I also wanna do like in my video, I'm also gonna be rollerblading through the park because that kinda goes with pirates. And so then I decided I need a a shirt. And so then I decided I should learn to screen print.

Speaker 2:

So yesterday, I went and bought, like, screen printing stuff so I could screen print the shirt that I want to go in my video for the rollerblading section section for the pirate video.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Sort of exploded Yeah. Into more than it should have.

Speaker 1:

As I think often seems to happen, right?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

That's that's something you're generally guilty of or whatever. Mhmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Starting things

Speaker 1:

that I maybe shouldn't.

Speaker 2:

That's fair. Wanna like do them. I wanna learn now. I wanna know how to screen print. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because then one day you're like, I wish I had a shirt that was like had whatever like an x on it. And you're like, oh, I could just screen print it. Boom. Done. Got my shirt.

Speaker 2:

Right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I mean, why not?

Speaker 2:

Why not? Yeah. Easy. Yeah. So which which actually is interesting.

Speaker 2:

I was having a conversation the other day with my parents, and we were talking about different styles of doing things. And my mom told me, which I hadn't really realized, that she is one of these people who, like, start something without really thinking about the ramifications of it. Yeah. Like, so say a project. Right?

Speaker 2:

So, like, I'm gonna make a massive stained glass. What's those things where you have all, like, Mary and Joseph and Jesus and the angels, you set it all up, you know?

Speaker 1:

Oh, nativity. Nativity scene.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So she was gonna make this huge nativity scene Yeah. Out of stained glass and bought like all the stuff and then made the first guy and realized that was insane and it was a good show.

Speaker 1:

So you come by naturally.

Speaker 2:

Was just like Joseph is all that there is Yeah. In the nativity scene. But but then I realized how similar to her I am where I just like, yeah, wanna do whatever and so I just start doing it. Yeah. And sometimes that works out for me but sometimes not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. But that's good to know that it comes from somewhere anyways. It's not

Speaker 2:

just Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You can blame your parents for that.

Speaker 2:

Totally. Yeah. Which is the opposite of my dad. He plans everything out and then when he's done, he logs it all like writes down exactly what he did so that if he ever needs to do it again, it's

Speaker 1:

Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So they're opposite.

Speaker 1:

I wish I did that because that would be much well, as you saw when we were setting this up is like, I'm like, I've done it before already but I didn't do anything as far as writing down what I actually did and then Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't takes twice as long to do it the next time.

Speaker 2:

You should write it down.

Speaker 1:

The problem is then I'll write it down somewhere but I can't remember where I actually write it down and

Speaker 2:

then Sticky notes.

Speaker 1:

Sticky notes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I've gone back to sticky notes. I got Lorenda to buy me a whole pack of them and now I just write stuff on them and stick them on the computer.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's way better than apps and things.

Speaker 1:

Apps that I know it because you you lose them and you're kinda did I put it in this app or that app or some app or whatever and then I yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like I don't feel like taking the time to type it in.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's where I think, not to make go too far into the I think the audio, what's the word I'm looking for? AI stuff like Jungle? Siri. Jungle. Welcome to the jungle.

Speaker 1:

The, like Siri stuff and whatever when it gets better because the potential is there already because I use I actually use if I remember to the main place I use it is, Apple Notes like the notepad or whatever app on your phone and notes on your computer because then Okay. You can just dictate to Siri while when you're somewhere and say add milk to my notes list or add whatever to this list of stuff I wanna do, and just tell the tell Siri to put it on the notes and then she'll add it to the notes list or whatever. So that's it's one place plus it's very easy to do it if you're running around and don't wanna don't have a pen with you because that's always the thing like the sticky notes is like I'm out somewhere and I don't have the stuff with me that I where I wanna write things down, that's when I wanna use my phone quickly. Right. But then I don't transfer that to like whatever the in a little book or whatever that I wanna use to keep track of things in the real world, sticky notes or whatever.

Speaker 1:

So

Speaker 2:

Does that need data? Do you need to have data on to use Siri?

Speaker 1:

You do. I think to yeah. To do that kind of stuff it has. Yeah. So yeah.

Speaker 1:

If you're without data, then you're nuts.

Speaker 2:

Data. Sorry. Is it data?

Speaker 1:

Data.

Speaker 2:

Or is it data data?

Speaker 1:

Cellular data. Cellular data. I don't know. Someone will correct us. I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So

Speaker 1:

But yeah. You have

Speaker 2:

But to you know what? It just somehow like that talking into your phone thing annoys me. Like whenever Lorinda does it, she's all like, Siri, put bread on the list. And it just is like it's like, oh you think you're so much better than me? Like talking into your phone and like here in the future, I've got my my little sticky note.

Speaker 1:

See, it's not about you Chris though then. That's your issue not hers.

Speaker 2:

I guess.

Speaker 1:

Because she doesn't think that she's better than you. I mean, she might.

Speaker 2:

She's like all like Siri. She's like looking at me like

Speaker 1:

That's the thing you don't

Speaker 2:

because my phone can't do Siri. Right?

Speaker 1:

Oh, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. So it's like.

Speaker 1:

Is she like giving you the finger while she does it? Is that why maybe you feel like, I guess I shouldn't.

Speaker 2:

Not with her finger, just just with her foot like just Yeah. She gives me that look like I am superior

Speaker 1:

to you. Yeah. And you know it. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. And most people do that whenever they're talking on Siri and they're looking at me and like mhmm.

Speaker 1:

It is

Speaker 2:

because Yeah. Do this, guys.

Speaker 1:

There's a social there's a social component to that where it's really awkward and everybody feels genuine Most people feel stupid in public talking to their phone, right? I think.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And

Speaker 2:

so Which is funny because that's what actually phones do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Know. Which actually I got into the habit of like if I wanna do something in public and I was like this feels dumb I'll just like put it to my ear like I was talking on the phone and then it feels kinda normal to do. Right? So

Speaker 2:

That's a good point because how come you talk to Siri out here but you're you talk to your friend like this. Right? It's like a

Speaker 1:

The thing that that I was gonna say is people don't need to do that they think they need to do is like actually say, hey, Siri. That's where it feels like you're not talking to a person or you're just talking to a computer. So just say add whatever to my list or what's the weather today. People think they have to be like polite like it's a a thing. Like my parents do that too and our mutual in laws parents I think too.

Speaker 1:

It's like you don't you can just say, what's the weather? What what was the score like in the game last night or whatever? Or what was add this to my list or add add this to my notes or whatever and it's not

Speaker 2:

have to press some button to do that though?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. You have to hold down the the you can just trigger with the home button.

Speaker 2:

Home button?

Speaker 1:

For like three seconds. If it is plugged in, like if it's powered on and or a newer phone, you can do the hey Siri and it'll hear you from across the room or whatever kind of idea.

Speaker 2:

And save your life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I got it triggered mine. But it didn't understand and shut off. So, which is super fun if you have kids and they find out about us and then everybody starts shouting across the room.

Speaker 1:

But Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because it doesn't have voice recognition yet does it? It knows it's you.

Speaker 1:

The latest iOS nine I think added that where it's supposed to learn your voice a bit and you teach it but it's not nowhere near as good as what you think it would be like. It's like obviously my kids, my three year old daughter sounds quite a bit different than I do. Shouldn't be able to trigger it, but yeah. Fair enough. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But yeah. So

Speaker 2:

So what kind of person are you Chris? Are you like planner or you're just doer and think later?

Speaker 1:

A doer and think later and, not a huge fan of planning as we've discussed in many episodes past where we talked about like New Year's resolutions and things and

Speaker 2:

True.

Speaker 1:

And

Speaker 2:

Domains.

Speaker 1:

Domains. Yeah. Buying things quickly and worrying about them later. And then like getting frustrated that things don't work out very well when I didn't take the time to plan it out. And I, you know, obviously then at that point I blame other things, other people or whatever for stuff, failing or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Like, do you blame you for our podcast?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. Of course.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

Speaker 1:

It's fair. Even though yeah. Even though it's, clearly well, I mean, it's equal.

Speaker 2:

Failing. I'm totally not failing.

Speaker 1:

No. Yeah. I misspoke there. Who's failing?

Speaker 2:

Do you blame me for the millions of people watching our podcast?

Speaker 1:

Yes. No. I don't. I don't know. I don't know what I do.

Speaker 2:

Sorry. I interrupted you there. Carry on.

Speaker 1:

I think I had finished my thought but definitely that idea of like not not planning but then being disappointed that the results don't turn out. Right? And Right. Wreck obviously being not being able to recognize in that moment like well obviously it's you're the idiot. I'm the idiot.

Speaker 1:

I'm not not talking to you but, but it does it does it's funny like I I can't remember what we took last recorded I think in March. So I done I did a Snapchat course. Have we talked about that? No. Oh.

Speaker 1:

The idea of doing it?

Speaker 2:

Saw that you did it because I saw a thing that you put out saying you did it. And everyone's like, yeah, totally. Didn't you know Chris did a Snapchat course?

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But no, we didn't talk about it.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So yeah, I turn so anyways, it's like gist of it is it's like, eight video, eight or nine videos each about two to five minutes in length explaining different aspects of Snapchat which is an app that's only available for your phone, Android or iPhone and it's just for sharing pictures and videos and stuff and it doesn't you can I'll put a link in the show notes or wherever this ends up, and you can check it out. But basically, it's a an app that's kind of like people either get freaked out about thinking it's gonna like send pic nude pictures of themselves to the Internet or it's yeah. It's just kinda and it's a very confusing interface. It's almost deliberately so designed to make you frustrated almost or like feel old and stupid almost in a sense as I think it's I don't know what I've never heard why they've designed it this way.

Speaker 1:

It's just kinda it's almost like I think it's fun and interesting as a social experiment in a way of them just kind of messing with stuff and like why do we have to do it everything the way everybody else does kind of idea. Right? But it is easy to get lost in the app and you're like where am I? What's going on? And you know and that's when you're dealing with like potentially sending video or photos out into the web and you have no idea where it's gonna end up, I can understand why people be terrified.

Speaker 1:

You know not that like because historically it was kind of like this like sending naked pictures to other people or whatever kind of thing Yeah. That people thought it was being used for.

Speaker 2:

Used it for.

Speaker 1:

Right. Exactly. Please stop sending me pictures. But the it's mean, yeah, it's maybe it's being used for that or not. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

But like the idea of this, it's kinda just like and the photos disappear after twenty four hours or after you view them and that kind of stuff. And so it's very anti everything else the web is about where it's like you know sharing and stats and who's how many people have viewed your thing and all that kind of stuff is not really a part of it. I find it just kind of curious as a platform. Anyways, as I was thinking I should make a quick course and I often think I should make a quick course about something WordPress or Internet would related and don't ever follow through on it or I make one little thing and thought, oh, that's dumb. But for me going this is circling way back around to like a tool that kind of like helps your brain unlock your brain in a sense like that's where I think it's important to try different things like whether it's sticky notes or an app.

Speaker 1:

I think it can help because this this in this case for me it was this app that Kyle Roderick uses, with like good stuff called workflowy.com and all it is is just like a blank page with and you can write sentences out and write sort of list items style thing and have collapsible items that you can nested item I guess is what I would say like where you'd have a heading and then you have a bunch of things underneath that and then you can have a subheading underneath that and kind of just it's kind of I'm doing a terrible job explaining it but for some reason I thought I'm just gonna there's this tool that Kalsman I've been meaning to try out and this Snapchat course I'm gonna just try using this tool to write out a work or, a plan for this tutorial and for some reason the two things really clicked and it worked really well to quickly outline, build an outline for this video course and helped me get it out of my brain onto the page or the screen and then was able to quickly turn around and start making video of it.

Speaker 1:

And I did I I set a goal of just doing like the first two or whatever from start to finish just to see how much time was involved and if I really wanted to do it or whatever in that. But at least get a video out there, and so once I knew it was working then I put up using Gumroad. I've just put up a landing page of like pre order thing and so then when I did that, put a price on it and had the first couple people pre order then it was like, okay, now I have to do it. Like I could I mean I could walk away and like it was only $5. It's not like and they wouldn't they hadn't been paid that and charged their credit card yet or anything like that.

Speaker 2:

So they pay once it go

Speaker 1:

Once it's yeah. Once it's once I launch it or whatever. But but at the same time it was like, somebody's committed to buying it now. And it like I knew it wasn't gonna make me money in that sense of like profit per hour. I think in the end I maybe broke not like broke even in terms of my time.

Speaker 1:

Right? Obviously, it didn't cost me anything to do but just my time but in terms of like if I'd been working for a client, I ended up making 200 and some dollars off the sales of the course or whatever and so it paid for my time basically doing it which was a good experience. But, all that to say you can learn about Snapchat with the course. But sometimes, yeah, creatively it helps to like mess with your workflow a bit because it might unlock something that, allows you to just like power through a section of whatever you know something you're stuck on. And since then it's been great for outlining actually I've used it for like I'm redesigning my Lemon Productions website and using this workflow y thing to just sort of help work out how and where I want content and what it wants what I want it to look like and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1:

So anyway. So

Speaker 2:

That's cool. That's a good business tip right there.

Speaker 1:

There you go.

Speaker 2:

Mess up your workflow and

Speaker 1:

I do it to a fault Do

Speaker 2:

something different. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like where I constantly am like checking out new apps and things and so then it's like that's I spend way too much time on that stuff instead of just doing the thing. Because every to me often everything is like, oh, this will, finally unlock the this is the missing piece. Potential. Yeah. This this app for my iPhone is why I have limited success in business or whatever really.

Speaker 1:

As if that's like the missing component, but anyway.

Speaker 2:

Hey, Chris, can I say I'm impressed that you made like a full video tutorial series? And obviously you made $200, but it's still up there for sale, right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Exactly.

Speaker 2:

So it's so so once your time is paid for, then it's just like

Speaker 1:

It's all gravy.

Speaker 2:

Free bags of chips. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

The problem is, what do you because you do you're on Gumroad. Right? And you're

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You pay, I think, 10 a month or something? Is the No.

Speaker 2:

No? I don't pay anything a month.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if maybe that's a change in their

Speaker 2:

They've I think they've changed it. Like I think it originally was free.

Speaker 1:

Because you just pay a percentage maybe? They must take a fee somewhere. Right? And I think on now they in order to actually sell stuff, I forgot to go back and look but I'm pretty sure in order to actually sell your thing beyond I had a thirty day trial. So I used that thirty day trial window to like sell it.

Speaker 1:

And now I think if I wanted to keep it going on there it'd be like $10 a month. So then it's like unless I have a sale each month I've it's now $9 or something. Then I'm basically losing money the longer I have it on there. But so I mean I tweet about it every so often and and whatever but, and set up a quick website as you do. But how do you snapchat dot ca?

Speaker 1:

Very cool. So Cool. Yeah. It's funny. Like it's it's kind of that like, as you do you experience I'm sure with each video is just that like you put something out into the world, you see the response.

Speaker 1:

At first it's kinda like tepid response. You're like, oh crap. And then you get you know like there's like Justin Jackson guy we talked with before tweeted it out and shared it with his community and it was like all of a sudden 15 people bought it and or whatever and then it's like, yay this is the this is it or whatever. Not that I yeah. No.

Speaker 1:

Not that I was like seriously thinking I was gonna quit my day job on a $9 course or whatever but like, yeah. And then like the that kind of trails off and you're like, yeah, back to normal and then the sad, realization that now I have to put another one out of the line. Keep that stream of income going or whatever. But

Speaker 2:

Well, yes and no though because like, yes. But if you're if you've got somewhere that people are looking for and can find your links to your course, right, like say with me with YouTube, right? There's always people who want to make a pirate hat. Yeah. Just today, was someone who was born who in October will want to make a pirate hat, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And so if and there's people who are always gonna be like, Snapchat, what the heck? And they're like, my kid's using it. I need to learn what to do or whatever. So so it's really a matter of having a way for people to find it, and then it could just keep selling forever Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Until Snapchat closes down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And there is the like the idea that you can, you know, when Snapchat puts on updates, I can add stuff to the video and then to the course and then put out a new version of it and charge those, you know, have a special going and you know, whatever and all that kind of stuff and then I it's kinda like I'm sort of half in that world or whatever you wanna say like I have one foot in that world and so I don't I'm not constantly thinking about it. So it's very it's gonna be very easy for it to just kind of fall away and be a thing that I did instead of a thing that I'm doing. And so, and that's where I'm at the point of like do I want to keep doing it and you know, mean I will keep updating the thing and and refreshing it slightly or whatever but do I want to keep pitching it each month and and sort of feeding that. I think Justin was saying like feeding the beast of like your your thing that you're doing.

Speaker 1:

You have to like constantly Yeah. Pitch it, sell it, market it, know. So it's but it's good experience of of doing that. I know like for your your stuff, it's not like you're you're doing a lot of like, hey, remember my video that I did and you should sell it or look at it now or whatever. Right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. No. It's all just Passive ish or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. What is that called like? Just people find it by themselves. Yeah. I don't have to tell them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. And that's the brilliance of like the YouTube search engine. Right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Especially in your that realm. Right? Like Yeah. Where it's there is other there is other people doing similar things to you but it's not on the scale isn't as huge as like No.

Speaker 1:

How to build a website or something like

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Where you're you're

Speaker 2:

How to make money online.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Exactly. Where you're competing with Plus you have the advantage of not you're not dependent on YouTube itself for the money part. Like that's you're dependent on them for the audience but the selling of the thing is your own thing. So theoretically now, YouTube changes their terms of service and or dinks about something.

Speaker 1:

Theoretically, you could leave and people would still be able to find you. Obviously, you'd have a little less of an yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'd probably lose about 90% of sales. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But but it still is your thing that's not dependent purely on ad money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

Speaker 1:

Because hey, you're up over 50,000 subscribers. I think we talked Yeah. 55. So it's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

2,000,000 views. Yeah. It's not bad. It's insane. Should Insane.

Speaker 1:

We need to keep We need to do our video projects. Yeah. I

Speaker 2:

wanna do it. As

Speaker 1:

soon as you figure out how to skateboard and wear a pirate hat or no roller skate.

Speaker 2:

Rollerblade.

Speaker 1:

Rollerblade.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Then then

Speaker 2:

So Gonna make a shirt with like rollerblade with like flames like rocket powered rollerblade.

Speaker 1:

Nice. Yeah. That's sweet.

Speaker 2:

But you'll have to just see the video. Yeah. Everyone, it's gonna be so good in twenty years when it comes out.

Speaker 1:

Alright.

Speaker 2:

Yes. I do wanna do our thing. We should probably let people go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. We should.

Speaker 2:

Long enough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's been about half an hour so it's good.

Speaker 2:

K.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know where this will end up. We broadcast out of goodstuff.fm for audio podcast. We're experimenting with video. This time streaming. Nobody's watched live.

Speaker 1:

That's okay. We're it was just kind of messing around with the idea of doing this. Yeah. So, I don't know. You'll find it somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Goodstuff.fm/something is where you can find it. Chris, where can they find Video

Speaker 2:

cast.

Speaker 1:

Your thing, video cast. I like how you're That's

Speaker 2:

what they're called.

Speaker 1:

You're bucking the trend of the vlogs and the Is that what you call it?

Speaker 2:

The vlogs? Yeah. We're the Videocast.

Speaker 1:

The audio podcast with video.

Speaker 2:

Audio whatever. Vodcast, does anyone do that?

Speaker 1:

Vodcast probably. I'm sure someone has tried to like Yeah. Everyone tries to like make their own branding on it so

Speaker 2:

that Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They're like It's like, I'm not using podcast, that's Apple. Right. Working for Chris, where can folks find some things if they wanna be give you money?

Speaker 2:

The lostwaxoz.com is where you'll find my Internet.

Speaker 1:

Oh, this is a video. We could do like the little go click that thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. Go click that. Oh, I'm pointing. Click that thing.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if we're pointing the same way. There'll be a there'll be I'll add some buttons and things to the stuff. Links? How to use snapchat.ca.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That one. You can add it while we're talking about Snapchat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Except then people leave and then they won't hear this. Okay. Thanks for listening folks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. You're awesome.

Speaker 1:

Have a good day. Bye.

Speaker 2:

Bye bye.

Speaker 1:

Look at the camera.